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Traditional Women 1

Author: Andrew DiKaiomata

In
the
MRM
we
often
see
feminists
and
tradcons
(traditional
conservatives)
compared
and
contrasted.
We
hear
that
tradcons
are
almost
as
bad
as
feminists.
In
this
article
I
submit
that
all
feminists

are

tradcons,
though
perhaps
not
all
tradcons
are
feminists.

The
initial
objection
to
this
thesis
is
that
feminism
is
radically
liberal,
while
tradcons
are
conservative,
so
how
can
feminists
be
tradcons?
The
reason
is
that
under
traditional
conservative
expectations,
as
with
feminism,
women
have
much
more
relaxed
and
different
rules.
There’s
a
very
narrow
dress
code
for
men,
but
wide
dress
code
for
women.
Same
with
hair,
personal
expression,
and
with
showing
feelings
and
the
expectation
that
people
care
about
your
emotions,
or
at
least
will
not
mock
them
like
we
do
with
male
expressions.
I’m
thinking
of
the
trendy
“Manfeelz,”
“I
bathe
in
male
tears,”
“I
drink
male
tears,”
“Oh,
I
hurt
your
fee-fees?”
compared
to
the
traditional-conservative
equivalent
“Keep
a
stiff
upper
lip,”
and
“Boys
don’t
cry.”

With
feminism
and
traditional
conservatism,
women
are
given
more
relaxed
rules.
For
feminists,
bouncing
their
bare
breasts
with
the
word
slut
painted
on
them
is
an
absolute
right,
of
course
men
don’t
ever
dare
take
on
a
similar
“slutty”
display
because
the
dress
code
is
much
stricter
with
men.
In
feminist
thought,
and
I
think
it’s
safe
to
say
traditional
conservatism
generally,
this
would
be
labeled
“creepy”,
with
female
feelings
being
of
the
utmost
importance.

When
we
look
at
the
shared
feminist
and
tradcon
attitudes,
near
verbatim
talking
points
and
views
on
sex
and
gender,
it
makes
me
wonder
if
feminism
isn’t
simply
a
subset
of
traditional
conservatism.
When
taking
a
broader
view,
we
see
that
all
feminists
are
in
fact
tradcons.
Let’s
talk
about
five
ways
feminism
is
traditional
conservatism:


Separate
rules
for
women

Feminists,
like
all
tradcons
have
a
real
hard
time
saying
no
to
women.
To
them,
as
a
man
you
need
to
both
satisfy
and
protect
women.
Treat
her
with
kid
gloves,
like
a
child.
To
them,
a
man
should
never
make
a
woman
cry,
he
needs
be
attentive
to
her
every
need.
For
example,
They’ll
shout
“It’s
never
okay
to
hit
a
woman!”
Not
even
to
defend
yourself
or
your
child?
Not
even
to
protect
another
woman?
No.
To
tradcons,
and
I
include
feminists
when
I
say
tradcons,
women
are
weak,
therefore
innocent.
Men
are
strong,
therefore
abusive.
Women
can
hit
men
without
violating
the
tradcon
mindset,
because
“What
harm
can
a
woman
really
do
against
men?
Men
are
stronger.”
This
is
where
both
feminists
and
tradcons
mock
abused
men,
and
minimize
their
issues.
Being
stronger,
to
them,
means
being
deserving
of
abuse.


Real
men

“Man
up
and
be
a
feminist!,”
“Take
it
like
a
man!.”
Feminists,
as
tradcons,
love
controlling
male
behavior
with
this
idea
of
“The
real
man”.
“Real
men
are
feminists”
didn’t
you
know
that?
I
guess
I
must
not
be
a
real
man
then.
And
piggybacking
on
our
last
point
“Real
men
don’t
hit
women.”
That’s
because
“Real
men
protect
women.”
We
need
men
to
sacrifice
to
their
detriment
for
the
benefit
of
women,
that’s
how
you
get
to
be
a
“real
man.”
“Benevolent
patriarchy”
you
see?
It’s
problematic,
except
when
it
directly
benefits
women…
in
all
other
instances,
it’s
“misogyny
writ
large.”


Women
and
children

When
the
boat
starts
sinking
everyone
yells
“Women
and
children
first!”
It
demonstrates
the
selfless
sacrificial
love
men
are
trained
to
have
to
women
they
don’t
even
know.
Yet,
to
a
feminist
and
perhaps
even
to
an
everyday
tradcon
with
quite
a
dim
view
of
men,
this
selfless
sacrificial
love
is
actually
based
on
a
hatred
of
women,
on
misogyny.
Being
in
the
unfortunate
position
of
hearing
a
feminist
try
to
make
this
point,
we’ll
just
say
it
makes
sense
if
you
don’t
think
about
it.
It’s
a
recurring
theme
within
feminism,
the
absolutely
indiscriminate
use
of
the
concept
of
hatred
with
the
word

misogyny
.
This
might
seem
like
a
position
where
tradcons
and
feminists
disagree,
the
idea
that
love
for
women
is
hate.
Yet,
keep
in
mind
the
next
point.


Men
are
after
women
for
sex

Tradcons
and
feminists
agree,
men
are
only
after
women
for
sex.
If
he
does
something
nice,
watch
out!
A
“nice”
guy?
No
no,
naive
MRA,
men
are
scum,
they’re
dangerous.
Watch
out
for
the
big
bad
man.
To
them,
men
need
to
be
restrained
because
they
are
like
werewolves,
ready
to
attack
innocent
women.
As
with
traditional
conservatism
a
female
might
“flirt”
with
a
man,
but
a
man
in
the
same
position
is
looked
at
as
a
potential
predator.
There’s
the
presupposition
that
a
man
is
a
up
to
no
good
with
only
sex
on
his
mind,
while
the
woman
is
pure
and
innocent.
A
display
of
male
sexuality
is
variously
“creepy”
or
“not
appropriate,”
contrasted
with
female
sexuality
where
it
is
variously
giving
women
a
wider
dress
code
or
the
title
of
“slut
pride”.
Don’t
ever
slut
shame,
you
creep!


Men
are
super
men
and
women
are
damsels

This
last
one
is
probably
the
biggest
point
to
show
how
feminism
overlaps
with
traditional
conservatism.
It
screams
both
at
the
same
time.
“Save
the
women!,”
“Fight
for
women!.”
Those
brave
white
knights,
feminists,
and
other
tradcons
trumpeting
the
call
to
rescue
those
poor
damsels.
“You
don’t
say
that
to
a
lady,”
“Check
your
privilege
before
you
mansplain
to
a
woman.”
This
is
huge
within
feminism
and
a
sentiment
they
love
exploiting.
Think
Elevatorgate,
Anita
Sarkeesian
and
feminism
generally.
Feminism’s
whole
thing
is
the
“men
are
evil
oppressors”,
“Women
are
oppressed”
shtick.

After
we
consider
these
five
points,
we
see
how
feminism
is
tradcon.
When
the
male-bashing
media
portrays
the
MRM
as
pushing
back
against
feminist
over-reach,
we
have
a
good
reference
to
see
how
there
hasn’t
been
“over-reach”
it’s
simply
a
new
kind
of
anti-male
sentiment
substituted
for
the
old.
There’s
war
between
men
and
women
for
rights
that
men
must
lose
so
that
women
can
win.

Feminism
exploits
traditional
conservatism
and
our
traditional
thoughts
to
attempt
to
benefit
women
to
the
detriment
of
men
in
much
the
same
way
traditional
conservatism
expects
men
to
sacrifice
for
the
benefit
of
women
to
the
detriment
of
themselves.
Feminism
and
traditional
conservatism
are
virtually
indistinguishable,
if
not
identical.

Original Story on AVFM
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